REAL LIFE ATP PILOTS

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UAL004 Danny Vinson
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REAL LIFE ATP PILOTS

Post by UAL004 Danny Vinson » Feb 22nd, '17, 11:34

Question: Do you feel as a real life ATP pilot you should be given the P5 certification automatically, or follow the same testing and check ride curriculum as all other hobbyists that enjoy the VATSIM network?
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UAL518 Richard Walsh
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Re: REAL LIFE ATP PILOTS

Post by UAL518 Richard Walsh » Feb 22nd, '17, 20:11

I would say since getting the P5 isnt a requirement they should have to get the same as anyone else. None of the P ratings are required so no need for someone to be awarded it without actually going through it like anyone else would.
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Re: REAL LIFE ATP PILOTS

Post by UAL277 Kevin Finch » Feb 23rd, '17, 09:43

I believe - things may have changed while I was away from simming for a few years - that real-life controllers can start off at Center on VATSIM, without working their way up from Dispatch. Perhaps offering an ATP a P5 in exchange for 10-15 hours as a VATSTAR trainer would be of interest to them.
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Re: REAL LIFE ATP PILOTS

Post by UAL004 Danny Vinson » Feb 23rd, '17, 15:28

Thanks for the replies!

As the PR Manager for VATSTAR, I realized some RL pilots feel a bit belittled for having to go through VATSIM training when they are a RL ATP pilot and fly passenger jets for a living.

I understand the ratings are not required as of yet, but we are working on a new way of thinking when it comes to handing out ranks. Mostly working to have VA's adopt a basic requirement to achieve at least a P2 rating before hopping into the larger aircraft; but it would be something each individual VA would work out themselves.

I think we need to explain we are not questioning your abilities.....we are teaching you the online hobby. VATSIM has its way of doing things that need to be learned; the practical side of testing should be a breeze!
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Re: REAL LIFE ATP PILOTS

Post by UAL048 Duane Palmore » Apr 11th, '17, 00:51

My question would be, how much of the curriculum beyond P1 is VATSIM specific? If the weight of what's being taught in the P2-P5 rating is better than 15% VATSIM only, I would say take the courses. If the VATSIM content is below that I would agree with the award of P5 after acting as a check airman for a brief period.
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